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Michael McDougall: Mastering Mindset in a Shifting Market
In this powerful episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, Sir Colin Campbell and Gary A. McGowan sit down with one of Canada’s top agents, Michael Mc...

Mike Espiritu: Why Empathy, Not Hustle, Wins in Real Estate
In this heartfelt episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, we sit down with East Coast powerhouse Mike Espiritu—Realtor, coach, and conduit of transf...

Phil M Jones; Exactly What to Say… in Real Estate
In this episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, we sit down with sales legend Phil M. Jones to explore how the right words, asked the right way, can...

Celebrating Excellence: KW Canada Gala 2024 – Award Winners Speak Out
✨ Episode Description:In this special episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, we take you inside the electric atmosphere of the KW Canada Gala 2024!...

Justin Jeffery - Overcoming Burnout and Leading with Resilience
In this episode of the Not So Black & White Real Estate Podcast, hosts Sir Colin Campbell and Gary A. McGowan sit down with Justin Jeffery, a top real estate team lead...
